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Just a reminder: Do not get me anything for Christmas. I do NOT want any presents. If you feel the need to spend money on my behalf, donate it to a battered women's shelter or something, and don't tell me about it.

Date: 2008-12-04 05:46 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-12-04 06:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikeys.livejournal.com
christmas? isn't that the holiday where they abort baby trees for jesus? ;)

Date: 2008-12-04 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anaisdjuna.livejournal.com

hee hee :-)

Date: 2008-12-04 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitten-goddess.livejournal.com
*gigglegigglegiggle*

Date: 2008-12-04 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dv-girl.livejournal.com
Take it further. To be a virgin, Mary would have been ~12 and if God created mankind, then it's also incest. Plus, Mary says she is unworthy and doesn't want to bear god's child but she's forced to accept it.

Abort baby trees to celebrate incestuous pedophilic rape.

Date: 2008-12-04 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
abort a baby tree for your raping, incestuous, pedophilic god.

...it has a nice, cheerful holiday ring to it dontcha think? ;)

Date: 2008-12-04 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikeys.livejournal.com
(...says me)
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Date: 2008-12-07 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dv-girl.livejournal.com
If pressed to think about it, I realize my intents are complicated.
In this particular instance, the intent was primarily one-upmanship and was meant primarily as humor. Take something irreverent and make it more irreverent. I've had that particular set of criticisms of Christmas long enough to be completely desensitized to them and did not consider them more inciting than the previous comment about trees.

However, their original intent was definitely more aggressive and meant to anger religious conservatives. In fact, the more I think about it, the uglier the original intent was, as my assumption ran along the lines of,
"Intelligent Christians might initially be offended but would quickly realize that the pedophilia bit is only because our culture has wildly different standards today than it did even 50 years ago. Additionally, the taboos exist for good hereditary reason; an issue that probably wouldn't be present if a deity is involved. So, only dogmatic fundamentalists will really be upset."

Of course, that's a stupid assumption. Most people just aren't wired that way, and for myself, there are definitely some topics that turn off the rational circuits. Religious conservatives are obviously one such topic.

As for the answer to your other question, I have been critical of most religions albeit more of their practice than their teachings. I do express more criticism of Christianity, but this could be summarized as, "Familiarity breeds contempt." It's more immediate to my life and has had much more (negative) impact on my life in its practice by dogmatists.

However, my internal mental landscape puts a sharp divide between religion and spirituality and while I generally have no issue blaspheming any religion (Although, as I understand it, this was just banned by the UN) I am not comfortable with the idea of assaulting someone's spirituality.

All that said, I wish to add that my previous comment was largely the folly of ego. A few weeks ago, I was meditating and struck upon a way to re-arrange my internal mental map such that it actually has a place for religion which is free of contempt, and it hasn't yet fully percolated through my behavior yet. In retrospect, I should not have made that comment. It is of no benefit anyone. Please consider it redacted.
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Date: 2008-12-08 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dv-girl.livejournal.com
Google news has lots of links on the blasphemy thing. It was done over US Thanksgiving.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=un+blasphemy

Allegedly, it's to 'protect' people from discrimination, but I suspect it will be used with the opposite intent.

Date: 2008-12-08 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maradydd.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] foxgrrl's Christian girlfriend is also a huge fan of absurdism pushed to extremes, and took it in that spirit, just FYI. :)

(That said, I am probably one of the least dogmatic Christians anyone will ever meet, and my interpretation of the Trinity is ... weird, to say the least. So I pretty much assume that anyone's criticism of Christianity needs to be examined carefully before being assumed to apply to my particular flavour. I mean, hell, you can't get much more different than Unitarians and Assemblies of God, and they both consider themselves Christians -- assuming that a criticism of one is necessarily a criticism of the other is knee-jerk and silly.)

Date: 2008-12-09 08:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunnykitteh.livejournal.com
But I bot u a big cheezburger :(

Oh well, I already ated it...

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